that might have worked had obama been able to get a majority in the house. and so they've established this mindset that why, why rely on government? it doesn't work. and we prove it by blocking all these programs. i mean, it's a very perverse kind of theory, but it's working. and it -- as you say, it does give people a sense that government really is not on tear side anymore. -- on their side anymore. it seems distant, it seems confused. the health care act, by the way, which is one of the reasons why the health care act is not working beside the issue of the bad web site is that i think about 25 states are controlled by republicans, and they refuse to set up these portals for, which would have been workable if they'd been on a state rather than a federal be level. so every effort to show that activist government works is being blocked in one way or the other and, therefore, that feeds into the cynicism of american, that government can't work. >> and forecloses the fdr spirit of experimentation. >> yes. ..